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you have to know beyond boehner what the party wants. but in some sense, the republicans are being sham bollic and making fools of themselves. but in another sense, they are acting favorably or rationally to the structure they are in. we have the sensible country with the dysfunctional washington. the reality is we have a country of people who want to bankrupt their children, spend money on themselves, and will punish any politician who prevents them from doing that. and therefore they will punish republicans if they cut entitlements. they will punish democrats if they cut quitements. so what you saw today was the president shifting attention from debt reduction to tax cuts, which is the easy thing. i think the problem is centrally in country, and the politicians look like idiots because they are responding to horrible incentives. >> shambalic. what does that mean? >> i'm british. >> ok. >> i thought i'd let it go the first time. i didn't know what it meant. tom, you interviewed the candidate obama in 2008. and you said -- you asked him
you have to know beyond boehner what the party wants. but in some sense, the republicans are being sham bollic and making fools of themselves. but in another sense, they are acting favorably or rationally to the structure they are in. we have the sensible country with the dysfunctional washington. the reality is we have a country of people who want to bankrupt their children, spend money on themselves, and will punish any politician who prevents them from doing that. and therefore they will...
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you have to know beyond boehner what the party wants. but in some sense, the republicans are being shambolic and making fools of themselves. but in another sense, they are acting favorably or rationally to the structure they are in. we have the sensible country with the dysfunctional washington. the reality is we have a country of people who want to bankrupt their children, spend money on themselves, and will punish any politician who prevents them from doing that. and therefore they will punish republicans if they cut entitlements. they will punish democrats if they cut entitlements. so what you saw today was the president shifting attention from debt reduction to tax cuts, which is the easy thing. i think the problem is centrally in the country, and the politicians look like idiots because they're responding to horrible incentives. >> what does shambolic mean, by the way? >> i'm british. >> ok. >> i thought i'd let it go the first time. i didn't know what it meant. tom, you interviewed the candidate obama in 2008. and you said -- you a
you have to know beyond boehner what the party wants. but in some sense, the republicans are being shambolic and making fools of themselves. but in another sense, they are acting favorably or rationally to the structure they are in. we have the sensible country with the dysfunctional washington. the reality is we have a country of people who want to bankrupt their children, spend money on themselves, and will punish any politician who prevents them from doing that. and therefore they will...
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you have to know beyond boehner what the party wants. but in some sense, the republicans are being shambolic and making fools of themselves. but in another sense, they are acting favorably or rationally to the structure they are in. we have the sensible country with the dysfunctional washington. the reality is we have a country of people who want to bankrupt their children, spend money on themselves, and will punish any politician who prevents them from doing that. and therefore they will punish republicans if they cut entitlements. they will punish democrats if they cut entitlements. so what you saw today was the president shifting attention from debt reduction to tax cuts, which is the easy thing. i think the problem is centrally in country, and the politicians look like idiots because they are responding to horrible incentives. >> it's interesting -- >> shambolic, that's a great word. >> what does it mean exactly? >> it's british. >> ok. >> i thought i'd let it go the first time. i didn't know what it meant. tom, you interviewed the c
you have to know beyond boehner what the party wants. but in some sense, the republicans are being shambolic and making fools of themselves. but in another sense, they are acting favorably or rationally to the structure they are in. we have the sensible country with the dysfunctional washington. the reality is we have a country of people who want to bankrupt their children, spend money on themselves, and will punish any politician who prevents them from doing that. and therefore they will...
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boehner got rolled. and john boehner said at one point in his career, not too long ago, that thanltd happen, but the writing was on the wall. at 2:00 in the morning, the night before last, wherever that was, chris, new year's eve, i guess, the night of new year's eve, 98-8 in the senate. they expected this to sweep away all the opposition, and ultimately, that's what happened, but not without a whole lot of drama yesterday. john boehner knew, the day after the election, when he approved in the raeburn room and said he was willing to give on revenues, $800 billion worth, just not by closing loopholes and simplifying a tax code and things of that nature, but not by raising rates. he saw the writing on the wall. everybody knew what the president had campaigned on, on that $250,000 threshold. obviously, the white house, a lot of smart people here knew that boehner had no flexibility. the president hit the road on those campaign-style events. he ultimately gave ground at that income level, now at $450,000, as
boehner got rolled. and john boehner said at one point in his career, not too long ago, that thanltd happen, but the writing was on the wall. at 2:00 in the morning, the night before last, wherever that was, chris, new year's eve, i guess, the night of new year's eve, 98-8 in the senate. they expected this to sweep away all the opposition, and ultimately, that's what happened, but not without a whole lot of drama yesterday. john boehner knew, the day after the election, when he approved in the...
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john boehner is in really tough spot. talk about your thoughts on what he's got to be doing as far as the dance to please members of his party and try to work out a compromise. >> he's probably the person having the worst new year's eve of anybody in washington. he's got to contend with the fact he's going to need some democrats on board. he's got a caucus that doesn't like to go along with him. they don't really trust him think think he's a moderate and part of the establishment. they're looking for him to sell them out. he created more problems for himself by removing a few of those members from their committee assignment. that's part of what prompted their revolt on the plan b bill. it was kind of payback. he's made things worse for himself. it's a tough caucus to start with. many are not worried about a general election. their are worried about the primary. >> we are going to have to leave it there. sorry about that. we're just out of time. if there's a vote we'll bring that to you live. stay tuned to a special editio
john boehner is in really tough spot. talk about your thoughts on what he's got to be doing as far as the dance to please members of his party and try to work out a compromise. >> he's probably the person having the worst new year's eve of anybody in washington. he's got to contend with the fact he's going to need some democrats on board. he's got a caucus that doesn't like to go along with him. they don't really trust him think think he's a moderate and part of the establishment. they're...
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boehner decided not to do that. now, i think there's clearly some sort of personal -- they don't know how to talk to each other, the white house and boehner. they just don't know how to negotiate with each other. biden and mcconnell do know how to speak to each other. and i think if they get 75 or 80 votes in the senate for what they come up with, and you know what? they're not that far apart on this fix, if you will. basically, they seem to be divided on whether to buy down the sequester. but they're not that far apart. and if they get 75 or 80 votes, that's going to mean 30 to 35 republicans. boehner has to put it on the floor. and boehner doesn't have to -- boehner really doesn't have to support the deal, but he does have to put it on the floor, and it will pass. >> michael steele, take it to robert gibbs. and it's great that some of these people can talk to each other, but they still have to go back to those who don't want to play ball, correct? >> that's exactly right. and that's the reality that we've lived wi
boehner decided not to do that. now, i think there's clearly some sort of personal -- they don't know how to talk to each other, the white house and boehner. they just don't know how to negotiate with each other. biden and mcconnell do know how to speak to each other. and i think if they get 75 or 80 votes in the senate for what they come up with, and you know what? they're not that far apart on this fix, if you will. basically, they seem to be divided on whether to buy down the sequester. but...
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boehner reserved judgment, did not say public opinion. boehner can't go over cantor on this one. he needs cantor to back him up on any final deal, right? >> what they're attempting to craft is something to get to 218 votes which has been an elusive target in this 112th congress. but i sensed that if they came up with something that was responsible and reasonable and laid down the marker on spending that we'll be there with the spooeker. >> going forward, do you think -- how many folks in your conference would support the bill as it is right now? >> that's hard to say. but it certainly wouldn't be the majority. the majority i don't know if you'd hit triple digits. i can only speak for myself that if the bill came up in its current form, i'd vote for it because i think it's unreasonable to hold hostage 95% of america and say you're getting a tax cut because we can't get our business taken care of. that doesn't mean i think it's a good bill. it would be a hold your nose and jump off the platform vote. >> so you think the number obviously boehner wants the majority. but for anything
boehner reserved judgment, did not say public opinion. boehner can't go over cantor on this one. he needs cantor to back him up on any final deal, right? >> what they're attempting to craft is something to get to 218 votes which has been an elusive target in this 112th congress. but i sensed that if they came up with something that was responsible and reasonable and laid down the marker on spending that we'll be there with the spooeker. >> going forward, do you think -- how many...
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that's exactly what speaker boehner is going to have to do tonight. how much credit does the speaker deserve for bringing this to a vote despite opposition from his very own party? >> well, i think it's pathetic that we have stooped so low. because if this last election tells us anything, the american public wants the parties to work together across the aisle. this so-called hastert rule started a few terms ago where the republicans say we're not going to bring a bill to the floor until we have a majority of the republican party, 218 votes. and of course what that does is it creates gridlock, because it has the most extreme legislation. it doesn't have bipartisanship. and it dies in the senate. so i'm hoping that tonight's vote where democrats and republicans will do the right thing, will herald well for the next congress, where people can come across the aisle and work together for the good of this country. that's what we need to do. >> do you expect, congresswoman, for hastert rule then to have -- it's gone. now that he is going across and he is not
that's exactly what speaker boehner is going to have to do tonight. how much credit does the speaker deserve for bringing this to a vote despite opposition from his very own party? >> well, i think it's pathetic that we have stooped so low. because if this last election tells us anything, the american public wants the parties to work together across the aisle. this so-called hastert rule started a few terms ago where the republicans say we're not going to bring a bill to the floor until...
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and right now, whether it's president obama, whether it was speaker boehner, the two of them couldn't find a way to get to a deal because they didn't want to look like they were ever caving. and when you get to a point where it looks like you're caving on something, then there is negative political effects. now, that's why they've brought in vice president biden, mitch mcconnell, the senate republican leader, to try to close this thing. and they may close a deal, but there's no guarantee that even any deal they come to an agreement with tonight will actually make it tomorrow. >> and chuck, this congress has, you were telling us, the lowest approval rating ever, the least productive. in terms of bills past. what happens when the next congress comes in later this week? >> reporter: well, the bad news is, if you view this as bad news, more of the same. because even if they get this temporary deal on taxes, temporarily buy down the automatic spending cuts, what they have set up is a series of mini fiscal cliffs, if you will, kate. so every three to six weeks, over the next six months, we
and right now, whether it's president obama, whether it was speaker boehner, the two of them couldn't find a way to get to a deal because they didn't want to look like they were ever caving. and when you get to a point where it looks like you're caving on something, then there is negative political effects. now, that's why they've brought in vice president biden, mitch mcconnell, the senate republican leader, to try to close this thing. and they may close a deal, but there's no guarantee that...
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a huge moment before the holidays where john boehner was unable to bring his bill up. what is the mood in the house, both democrats and republicans? are you guys just playing wait-and-see? do you have an expectation that if the senate passes something, the house is at least going to take it up? >> well, that has to happen, as you just said, in order to get this done. the house not only would have to take up an agreement that came out of the senate, obviously, we'd need a majority vote, republicans joining with democrats to get something done, which is why as the senators and the white house negotiate this deal, they do have to keep an important eye on the house, because ultimately, you're going to have to have people come together in a bipartisan way to get this done. you're not going to be able to get an agreement passed with just republicans. and so, it's important that they keep in mind the coalition of democrats and republicans that will have to come together to vote for something. >> now, congressman, obviously, let's say something passes through the senate. the g
a huge moment before the holidays where john boehner was unable to bring his bill up. what is the mood in the house, both democrats and republicans? are you guys just playing wait-and-see? do you have an expectation that if the senate passes something, the house is at least going to take it up? >> well, that has to happen, as you just said, in order to get this done. the house not only would have to take up an agreement that came out of the senate, obviously, we'd need a majority vote,...
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it is john boehner. nancy pelosi. at this poemt, after all the fuss and fighting, this is the one moment eric cantor, nancy pelosi walking to the podium. as you see the house chamber here is general celebration. family in the family gallery. john boehner now picks up the gavel. this is a big challenge. joining me now here watching is josh green from bloomberg business week, and karen from the washington host, and -- also from bloomberg. well, we see what just happened. your cover story is a wonderful picture that we'll show in a minute as we watch john boehner taking the podium of the babies in congress in this whole debate. >> yeah, our coverage is about the fiscal cliff politics, and basically our take-away was that congress is a bunch of babies and so i probably should pause to congratulate boehner who it seems like has finally assembled enough votes to actually win a round. >> can i just say, that is a really mean thing to say about babies. >> it's true. >> that crying you heard on the floor was not babies. it was
it is john boehner. nancy pelosi. at this poemt, after all the fuss and fighting, this is the one moment eric cantor, nancy pelosi walking to the podium. as you see the house chamber here is general celebration. family in the family gallery. john boehner now picks up the gavel. this is a big challenge. joining me now here watching is josh green from bloomberg business week, and karen from the washington host, and -- also from bloomberg. well, we see what just happened. your cover story is a...
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the question is will house speaker john boehner bring this to a vote. the politics of this are such that there will be a considerable amount of pressure on house republicans to bring this to a vote, in large part if it does pass through the senate. so we'll have to see. those are some big ifs. but things are moving forward. and again, to underscore kelly's point, this is a very large development. >> it will be a new year's eve to remember for sure. lots of nail biting, kristen. thank you so much. kristen welker and kelly o'donnell there for us. we're going to continue our breaking coverage and the last-minute breakthrough when we come back. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. it's not for colds. it's not for pain. it's just for sleep. because sleep is a beautiful thing™. ♪ zzzquil™. the non-habit forming sleep-aid from the makers of nyquil®. by showing you the apartment building where the fire was. when things like this happen, i think you find a new perspective on life. red cross put us in a hotel so we were able to stay together. we'
the question is will house speaker john boehner bring this to a vote. the politics of this are such that there will be a considerable amount of pressure on house republicans to bring this to a vote, in large part if it does pass through the senate. so we'll have to see. those are some big ifs. but things are moving forward. and again, to underscore kelly's point, this is a very large development. >> it will be a new year's eve to remember for sure. lots of nail biting, kristen. thank you...
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he was boehner's ally. >> why? >> that really helped boehner at the end. why? because i think ryan long term is just like camp dadave camp. they're talking about the long-term tax reform is going to come on the debt ceiling in 2013 with the budget fight. you're so right on the debt part. but what they want to do now is lock in the rates. that was their argument in the caucus meeting last night. that was their argument on the floor. lock in the bush era rates, do what you can and move on. >> why did they break away from john boehner at the last moment other than it made a hell of a lot of good sense if you're actually conservative ideologically, you don't believe in adding $4 trillion to the national debt? >> i that i raets really the case here. i cover the house republican conference all the time. i don't think the cantor and mccarthy ney votes are a move against boehner. i don't see a coup happening against boehner. i think when boehner comes up for election in a day or two, he's going to win re-election as speaker. what cantor and mccarthy were doing was stan
he was boehner's ally. >> why? >> that really helped boehner at the end. why? because i think ryan long term is just like camp dadave camp. they're talking about the long-term tax reform is going to come on the debt ceiling in 2013 with the budget fight. you're so right on the debt part. but what they want to do now is lock in the rates. that was their argument in the caucus meeting last night. that was their argument on the floor. lock in the bush era rates, do what you can and...
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yes, the sentiment that was expressed in kelly's piece is very close to what speaker boehner said. they hate the bill. they don't like the bill but 89 votes is a real message. you have literally only a hand ful of democratand a handful of republicans in the senate that voted against this thing in single digits. this means it will get through the house. it may be about 100, 110 republicans aat be s at best, b message was pretty clear and there's not much speaker boehner can do about it. they almost feel that the senate, in voting in those numbers, handcuffed the leadership, forcing them not to change the bill, throw it on there, not be happy about it, but live to fight another day. nancy pelosi and the democrats signed off on it. there may be more democratic votes that pass this house than republican votes at the end of the day, but it will pass. >> what kind of challenge does it face for the future when you see this kind of contentious situation going on for both sides? >> it means we'll have more of the same in the next, at least, three months. we have this whole setup coming up h
yes, the sentiment that was expressed in kelly's piece is very close to what speaker boehner said. they hate the bill. they don't like the bill but 89 votes is a real message. you have literally only a hand ful of democratand a handful of republicans in the senate that voted against this thing in single digits. this means it will get through the house. it may be about 100, 110 republicans aat be s at best, b message was pretty clear and there's not much speaker boehner can do about it. they...
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according to politico, boehner had strong words for the senate majority leader quote, go f yourself boehner. as he pointed his finger at reid. reid a bit startled replied what are you talking about and boehner then repeated it. go f yourself. they didn't cut the deal. in the end it was vice president biden and the senate majority leader. what does this say about the inability to work together? >> i also like the fact according to that story that boehner then went around bragging to everybody he said that to reid. i think they were both at the bottom of the food chain here of decision makers. they were fighting at the bottom of the chain while mitch mcconnell and joe biden were putting together the deal. i think both boehner and reid in a way were powerless in this decision for obvious reasons. and they -- the white house -- i was told by david plouffe a month ago that he much rather would prefer to work with mcconnell than boehner. mcconnell knows how to play chess, boehner doesn't. >> he got his wish. >> and when i talked to the republican senators they said the same thing about harry reid
according to politico, boehner had strong words for the senate majority leader quote, go f yourself boehner. as he pointed his finger at reid. reid a bit startled replied what are you talking about and boehner then repeated it. go f yourself. they didn't cut the deal. in the end it was vice president biden and the senate majority leader. what does this say about the inability to work together? >> i also like the fact according to that story that boehner then went around bragging to...
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>> he already has this covered, to boehner's great credit. he brought paul ryan in, eric cantor in, mccarthy in who might be the one -- >> the guy from california. >> yeah. and he brought them all in on this plan "b" and all on the negotiations. so he's covered there. he needs mcconnell. if he can get mcconnell and a couple senate republicans, then -- >> what about the body of 40 or so tea partiers who are holdouts. how does he reach them? the ones necessary for any kind of majority? >> he doesn't necessarily need them. if he can get senate republicans, then -- >> is that his game right now to go around his hard core right? >> it is. because then the hard core right isn't just blaming john boehner for all the troubles of the world. they're also -- >> can he allow the house of representatives to work its will with the minority of republicans? >> yes, he can. >> glen, is this your view? if we get a sol lux next week it's probably because a speaker allows a minority of republicans, maybe less than 100, to agree with some 120 democrats and out of
>> he already has this covered, to boehner's great credit. he brought paul ryan in, eric cantor in, mccarthy in who might be the one -- >> the guy from california. >> yeah. and he brought them all in on this plan "b" and all on the negotiations. so he's covered there. he needs mcconnell. if he can get mcconnell and a couple senate republicans, then -- >> what about the body of 40 or so tea partiers who are holdouts. how does he reach them? the ones necessary...
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boehner from the speaker's chair as well? >> well, martin, i always like to save some breaking news for you when i come on. >> i'm grateful to you for that. >> i have huge breaking news tonight. there are serious rumors that at the conference tonight at 5:00 john boehner will announce that he's resigning as speaker of the house. there are multiple senior sources that i have talked to tonight that have said that this is going to happen. >> ron, i wouldn't wish to question your sanity, but i find that very hard to believe. >> i know. listen, i find it hard to believe. i was put at a one in four chance today we'd be able to kick him out today. there are a serious group of members thinking about it. >> do they have someone as an alternative in mind. >> eric cantor is probably the one. >> is this a coup? >> i don't have any evidence. >> you have to put evidence forward. you put forth a rumor. sub shans -- substantiate it. >> -- the first business of order tomorrow. and why it should be -- by the way, it should be a $9 billion bill
boehner from the speaker's chair as well? >> well, martin, i always like to save some breaking news for you when i come on. >> i'm grateful to you for that. >> i have huge breaking news tonight. there are serious rumors that at the conference tonight at 5:00 john boehner will announce that he's resigning as speaker of the house. there are multiple senior sources that i have talked to tonight that have said that this is going to happen. >> ron, i wouldn't wish to question...
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house speaker john boehner feeling a lot of the heat. we'll talk with the spokesperson for a conservative group that suggests that he resign because of his failed plan "b." p chases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone...but her likes 50% more cash. but i'm upping my game. do you want a candy cane? yes! do you want the puppy? yes! do you want a tricycle? yes! do you want 50 percent more cash? no! ♪ festive. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash back on every purchase plus a 50% annual bonus on the cash you earn. it's the card for people who like more cash. what's in your wallet? it's the card for people who like more cash. excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. sounds a little too good to be true sir. i'll believe that when pigs fly. ok, did s
house speaker john boehner feeling a lot of the heat. we'll talk with the spokesperson for a conservative group that suggests that he resign because of his failed plan "b." p chases, plus a 50% annual bonus. and everyone...but her likes 50% more cash. but i'm upping my game. do you want a candy cane? yes! do you want the puppy? yes! do you want a tricycle? yes! do you want 50 percent more cash? no! ♪ festive. [ male announcer ] the capital one cash rewards card gives you 1% cash...
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we have speaker boehner and he said now the focus turns to spending. the american people reelected a republican majority in the house and we will use it to hold the president accountable for the balanced approach he promised. there at least two big fights ahead. the debt ceiling and the two-month delay. you heard senator lindsay graham saying they saved their powder. are they expecting a tough fight ahead? >> the fight cannot be over the debt limit. it can be over the resolution to effectively shut down the government. it can be over the sequester. those are powerful incentives to work together, but we can't continue to hold the country's economy and full faith in credit costage in russian roulette. the president really has to stand his ground on this. let's fight over the other things, but not put the economy at risk by threatening the full faith and credit of the u.s. government. that's irresponsible. >> the senator was on "morning joe" and said republicans have to be willing to do whatever it takes in the deficit fight. let's take a look at that. >>
we have speaker boehner and he said now the focus turns to spending. the american people reelected a republican majority in the house and we will use it to hold the president accountable for the balanced approach he promised. there at least two big fights ahead. the debt ceiling and the two-month delay. you heard senator lindsay graham saying they saved their powder. are they expecting a tough fight ahead? >> the fight cannot be over the debt limit. it can be over the resolution to...
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but boehner was at a million. boehner went down 550,000. so it's according to whether you want to count from the top down or the bottom up. both sides gave and i think the other side gave a little more. but governor, when it comes down to the debt ceiling that the chairman just referred to, president gave a warning to republicans. watch this. >> i will not have another debate with this congress over whether or not they should pay the bills they've already racked up through the laws that they passed. let me repeat. we can't not pay bills that we've already incured. >> sounds like he's pretty strong and stern on that. what dooungs, governor? >> he is and he ought to be. the last time, it was an international disgrace, not just a national disgrace, but an international disgrace. we shouldn't play politics with that. we owe this money. we've got to pay it. we've got o to have the funds to pay it. i think the sequester comes up in two months, probably a week or two before the debt ceiling. we're going to have to have some resolution of the broad
but boehner was at a million. boehner went down 550,000. so it's according to whether you want to count from the top down or the bottom up. both sides gave and i think the other side gave a little more. but governor, when it comes down to the debt ceiling that the chairman just referred to, president gave a warning to republicans. watch this. >> i will not have another debate with this congress over whether or not they should pay the bills they've already racked up through the laws that...
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on tax hikes. >> i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit as part of an overall package. >> reporter: the sticking point for them is that they say the democrats want to use the revenue that would come from new taxes to use that to cover the cost to prevent some of the spending cuts that are part of this so-called fiscal cliff. republicans want to see more deficit reduction. democrats say that could come later, but this would be a smaller plan. there are really some serious differences and not a lot of time left. congress has created its own deadline to this so-called fiscal cliff and now has to live by it over the next several hours to see if something can get done. erica? >> kelly o'donnell, thank you. chuck todd is nbc's political director. kelly mentioned some constructive movement but then there's this chasm we keep hearing about. is there a chance for a deal? >> i think -- i want to say yes, there's a chance for a deal! they're not that far apart. it really depends on the polit
on tax hikes. >> i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit as part of an overall package. >> reporter: the sticking point for them is that they say the democrats want to use the revenue that would come from new taxes to use that to cover the cost to prevent some of the spending cuts that are part of this so-called fiscal cliff. republicans want to see more deficit reduction....
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what was john boehner thinking? chris christie said he refused to return his phone calls, four phone calls. >> i think it was a mistake on the speaker's part to not schedule that vote. if there's one thing i learned working over the past 20 years is never fight over disaster assistance. i think it was really high tension getting through the fiscal cliff negotiations and trying to get that legislation passed and i think that's what i will chalk it up to, but i think the speaker is trying to correct it and he will and i think he's going to be re-elected today. >> the other thing the speaker says is i'm not going to talk to the president. given the fact that he became marginalized in the talks over the fiscal cliff, how does he stay relevant? >> well, he is relevant because of the three things that are coming that you know very well, chris, the sequestration, the three-month day and the debt ceiling itself. we've got serious issues to take care of in the next two months. we haven't begun. what happened two days ago did
what was john boehner thinking? chris christie said he refused to return his phone calls, four phone calls. >> i think it was a mistake on the speaker's part to not schedule that vote. if there's one thing i learned working over the past 20 years is never fight over disaster assistance. i think it was really high tension getting through the fiscal cliff negotiations and trying to get that legislation passed and i think that's what i will chalk it up to, but i think the speaker is trying...
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i think speaker boehner did well through this. i'm a fan of this and i think he will be re-elected as speak. they are taking out frustrations on him when he manages a difficult process. >> bret: kirsten? >> it's not pro or anti-boehner situation as much as why was it get to this point? why couldn't they have -- why so much pork in it. why so much spending that is meant to go and relieve the problem. >> who controls this -- >> it started in the senate. >> you be i'm saying this is the disflux of washington -- dysfunction of washington. they didn't know this was coming out of the senate? can people talk to each other? >> corruption of the word. idea of emergency. this will happen quickly and because earmarks are harder to get. no one knows that passes in midnight. they have done the right thing to hold it up. >> next up, fiscal cliff deal, bill, soon to be law. and the debt ceiling fight to come. look what mommy is having. mommy's having a french fry. yes she is, yes she is. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. 100% vegetab
i think speaker boehner did well through this. i'm a fan of this and i think he will be re-elected as speak. they are taking out frustrations on him when he manages a difficult process. >> bret: kirsten? >> it's not pro or anti-boehner situation as much as why was it get to this point? why couldn't they have -- why so much pork in it. why so much spending that is meant to go and relieve the problem. >> who controls this -- >> it started in the senate. >> you be i'm...
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than john boehner. marco rubio in the senate is calculating his 2016 primary and thinks there's something there. you know, the problem really is the bigger picture is the democrats are the ones who keep becoming reasonably saving the day, putting the votes over the top. this gop leadership is failing the country. it's not just that there's no ko home invasion. there's no strategy or plan to do anything different. john boehner and eric cantor had their chance to actually come up with a more reasonable package and didn't. >> ari, i thought that john boehner showed a little courage there. he was almost -- if you will, going against so many republicans and saying you know what? there aren't a whole lot of spending cut, but the country cannot go over this fiscal cliff because tens of millions of americans could see their taxes going up. he did the right thing in terms of wanting to prek so many. >> at the end of the day, the speaker's job is to be the most reasonable person in the house and the person has to
than john boehner. marco rubio in the senate is calculating his 2016 primary and thinks there's something there. you know, the problem really is the bigger picture is the democrats are the ones who keep becoming reasonably saving the day, putting the votes over the top. this gop leadership is failing the country. it's not just that there's no ko home invasion. there's no strategy or plan to do anything different. john boehner and eric cantor had their chance to actually come up with a more...
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the house will be controlled by john boehner so it is divided. it's the idea that if they go home for christmas break, if they go over the cliff and if they do invest in the debt ceiling, people will get spooked because you hear stories about social security recipients and facing the checks in government. unemployment insurance dried up and payroll tax cuts. the paycheck will show that more is taken out for the tax. that will in turn cause the type of pressure on the new income in congress. it's interesting that we have the same with k. bailey hutchinson. what's gotten her is fleethat t will go home and obama will introduce his own package and they have nothing to do but accept it. or they get blamed for everything. >> can you recall a time in your life and your politics, a couple of years at least, a comparable level of incompetence in washington. >> the last four years. i spent some of the time over the holidays for my since reading about this. my overall reaction is groundhog day. it's the same issues. some of the same players and the same que
the house will be controlled by john boehner so it is divided. it's the idea that if they go home for christmas break, if they go over the cliff and if they do invest in the debt ceiling, people will get spooked because you hear stories about social security recipients and facing the checks in government. unemployment insurance dried up and payroll tax cuts. the paycheck will show that more is taken out for the tax. that will in turn cause the type of pressure on the new income in congress....
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do you support john boehner? >> i do, actually. i just walked out of that meeting she just referenced that dana just mentioned saying it was internal procedure setting up the rules for the house. there was actually no conversation at all of any type about a lack of support for john boehner. >> let me just understand why that is though because in the recent key moments of leadership, john boehner has not been able to deliver, right? there was the plan b right before christmas. that he was going to put out and couldn't even get back to the floor for his own party and then in the fiscal cliff deal, he was the guy doing the negotiating and wasn't able to get it done. then senator mcconnell had to step in. if john boehner couldn't get that done, why is he going to be speaker? >> here's the challenge of it. the house passed sequestration documents in may. and we passed our tax documents in august and then we went through the process. the mistake that was made and we're waiting on the senate to respond. he shouldn't have done face to face
do you support john boehner? >> i do, actually. i just walked out of that meeting she just referenced that dana just mentioned saying it was internal procedure setting up the rules for the house. there was actually no conversation at all of any type about a lack of support for john boehner. >> let me just understand why that is though because in the recent key moments of leadership, john boehner has not been able to deliver, right? there was the plan b right before christmas. that...
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the house majority and their speaker, john boehner. we respond to innocent victims of natural disasters, not as republicans or democrats, but as americans, or at least we did until last night. >> jennifer: now criticism like that has prompted speaker boehner to change his tune. he now says that congress will take up that storm-relief package this week. coming us tonight from washington to talk about why congress did fail to act is andrew krol a reporter with "mother jones." andy welcome back. happy new year. >> happy new year to you too. >> jennifer: stenny holder says that eric cantor told him that he was 99.9% sure that a sandy package would in fact make it to the floor. and this was before last night. what happened? >> these -- this relief package for the victims of hurricane sandy, focusing on the damage in new york and new jersey was expected to be handled last night amidst all of the fiscal cliff drama, and about an hour before midnight as far as we know house speaker john boehner pulled the vote on this. he quietly said there wa
the house majority and their speaker, john boehner. we respond to innocent victims of natural disasters, not as republicans or democrats, but as americans, or at least we did until last night. >> jennifer: now criticism like that has prompted speaker boehner to change his tune. he now says that congress will take up that storm-relief package this week. coming us tonight from washington to talk about why congress did fail to act is andrew krol a reporter with "mother jones." andy...
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john boehner the republican house speaker was able to gather 85 votes in favor of this bill. overwhelmingly passed in the senate.not as much, most republicans voted against it in the house. but in the end, they were able to get it passed. and not mentioned as much but something that's going to impact a lot of paychecks. remember that 2% payroll tax cut we enjoyed in the past year? that's not a part of that bill. payroll taxes going up 2%. you will feel that in your check this month, bill. >> thanks, tracie. here's a recap of how it played owl just after the ball dropped 2:00 a.m., the senate passed the bill. no senator claims true victory. 30 minutes later, the president releases a statement praising the agreement. then around noon, vice president biden meets with the house democratic caucus and trying to sell his carefully constructed but same deal. but then we quickly learned that house republicans may be staging a revolt. eric cantor and his peers rallying for amendment. namely, they want to add $330 billion in spending cuts to the bill. take it to 5:00 p.m. yesterday. the
john boehner the republican house speaker was able to gather 85 votes in favor of this bill. overwhelmingly passed in the senate.not as much, most republicans voted against it in the house. but in the end, they were able to get it passed. and not mentioned as much but something that's going to impact a lot of paychecks. remember that 2% payroll tax cut we enjoyed in the past year? that's not a part of that bill. payroll taxes going up 2%. you will feel that in your check this month, bill....
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boehner says let's have one for one, $twenty1 trillion in cuts. obama is $1.3, actually, more than barron, dmeapt -- let me finish -- except that obama has stimulus spending built in there. these guys are not far apart. but what we have -- >> the problem -- [overlapping dialogue] >> boehner can get a million dollars -- >> no, no. that's because -- you can't blame that on the democrats [overlapping dialogue] >> how dare they do this to a guest. how dare you? >> welcome tote program. >> thank you very much. >> we are out of time now. [laughter] >> now a word from our sponsors. i want to ask you about political fallout. a lot of people are saying -- let's blame the democrats or the republicans. right now, it seems the democrats are winning the messaging game here. but who will be to blame if we go over the cliff? >> correct me if i am wrong -- especially you -- but it seems like the conventional wisdom, when wh all is said and done, obama will come out looking nice. but right now, what he doesn't care about is a popularity boost in the polls. what ul
boehner says let's have one for one, $twenty1 trillion in cuts. obama is $1.3, actually, more than barron, dmeapt -- let me finish -- except that obama has stimulus spending built in there. these guys are not far apart. but what we have -- >> the problem -- [overlapping dialogue] >> boehner can get a million dollars -- >> no, no. that's because -- you can't blame that on the democrats [overlapping dialogue] >> how dare they do this to a guest. how dare you? >>...
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it's impossible to negotiate with speaker boehner because speaker boehner cannot negotiate with his own caucus. and that is the crux of the problem. i understand why senator mccain may want to try to make this a problem for the president that he went out there and talked about the need to get a deal done but i think he's got his focus on the wrong target if you will. >> and, chip, vice president biden certainly comes out looking almost glowing with this deal looking almost presidential. how does this burnish his 2016 bona fides should he decide to run? >> i think it helps him kind of show that he is a problem solver and was able to come in at the last moment and solve it. he is going to have a lot of natural help being the sitting vice president if he decides to run in 2016 but this kind of gives him a little bit of hey i can fix big problems and look back to this crisis and i came in and fixed it. >> and chris, john boehner definitely comes out of these negotiations looking weaker. notably he couldn't get his plan b through. does he have anything to fear on thursday when the house vote
it's impossible to negotiate with speaker boehner because speaker boehner cannot negotiate with his own caucus. and that is the crux of the problem. i understand why senator mccain may want to try to make this a problem for the president that he went out there and talked about the need to get a deal done but i think he's got his focus on the wrong target if you will. >> and, chip, vice president biden certainly comes out looking almost glowing with this deal looking almost presidential....
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boehner says let's have one for one, $twenty1 trillion in cuts. obama is $1.3, actually, more than barron, dmeapt -- let me finish -- except that obama has stimulus spending built in there. these guys are not far apart. but what we have -- >> the problem -- [overlapping dialogue] >> boehner can get a million dollars -- >> no, no. that's because -- you can't blame that on the democrats [overlapping dialogue] >> how dare they do this to a guest. how dare you? >> welcome tote program. >> thank you very much. >> we are out of time now. [laughter] >> now a word from our sponsors. i want to ask you about political fallout. a lot of people are saying -- let's blame the democrats or the republicans. right now, it seems the democrats are winning the messaging game here. but who will be to blame if we go over the cliff? >> correct me if i am wrong -- especially you -- but it seems like the conventional wisdom, when wh all is said and done, obama will come out looking nice. but right now, what he doesn't care about is a popularity boost in the polls. what ul
boehner says let's have one for one, $twenty1 trillion in cuts. obama is $1.3, actually, more than barron, dmeapt -- let me finish -- except that obama has stimulus spending built in there. these guys are not far apart. but what we have -- >> the problem -- [overlapping dialogue] >> boehner can get a million dollars -- >> no, no. that's because -- you can't blame that on the democrats [overlapping dialogue] >> how dare they do this to a guest. how dare you? >>...
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that is why speaker boehner and i try to negotiate a larger agreement. that would put this country on a path to pay down its debt bank also putting americans back to work rebuilding roads and bridges and providing investment the dark areas like investment and job training. unfortunately, there was not enough support or time for that kind of large agreement in a lame duck session of congress. that failure comes with a cost. the mess in nature of the process of the past several weeks has made business more uncertain and consumers less confident. but we are continuing to chip away at this problem. step by step. last year, i signed into law $1.70 trillion in deficit reduction. tonight's agreement for the reduces the deficit by raising billions of dollars in revenue from the wealthiest households in america. there will be more dead as a reduction as congress decides what to do about the automatic spending cuts now delayed for two months. i want to make this point. as i have demonstrated throughout the past several weeks, i am open to compromise. i agree with
that is why speaker boehner and i try to negotiate a larger agreement. that would put this country on a path to pay down its debt bank also putting americans back to work rebuilding roads and bridges and providing investment the dark areas like investment and job training. unfortunately, there was not enough support or time for that kind of large agreement in a lame duck session of congress. that failure comes with a cost. the mess in nature of the process of the past several weeks has made...
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boehner can't come to areement. as much as a 10% unemploymenttyn rate, because both as president and republican parties parties, as you can seema here, they aret playing at the margin in thecust tional media is not focusing washit the reality is. they are just playing games. righalong with the folks in washington. this president is guilty of class warfare. for wht? are you kidding me?ma. president obama seems to love rt the drama. i thought he didn't like drama. the reality is that there will be so little impact on our fiscal future. the after all of the drama and whateeer the outcome, we remaih in great jeopardy. because this isn't a fiscals. future. this is not something that any of us want. don't you love it? a lame-duck session of congress. they areon the ones who haveto steer us away from the fiscal cliff. joining us tonight, governor jo mike when some people struggle with their mortgage payments, they become frozen, petrified. not knowing what to do, they do nothing, but the people who do something, the people
boehner can't come to areement. as much as a 10% unemploymenttyn rate, because both as president and republican parties parties, as you can seema here, they aret playing at the margin in thecust tional media is not focusing washit the reality is. they are just playing games. righalong with the folks in washington. this president is guilty of class warfare. for wht? are you kidding me?ma. president obama seems to love rt the drama. i thought he didn't like drama. the reality is that there will...
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footing. >> what is boehner's game plan? does he even have one? ryan grim is washington bureau chief for "the huffington post," and glen johnson is politics editor for boston.com. i worked on the hill for years. you cover the hill and know it. that was a very personal shot from harry reid. is it accurate to say, open question, that speaker boehner is worried about staying speaker? >> yes. he's definitely -- i think he's not worried about his election on january 3rd, but that's not the end of it. you know, i think he's worried about his speakership every day he's speaker -- >> do you agree with that, he's worried he may be losing out or being thrown out of the speakership by his own party? >> for sure. he spent the first two years of his speakership looking over his shoulder as the camera shows of eric cantor right behind him ready -- >> but cantor is with him now, isn't he? hasn't his number two guy joined him? >> he's his number two guy and supporter, but he's the spiritual leader of the tea party caucus there, and that's t
footing. >> what is boehner's game plan? does he even have one? ryan grim is washington bureau chief for "the huffington post," and glen johnson is politics editor for boston.com. i worked on the hill for years. you cover the hill and know it. that was a very personal shot from harry reid. is it accurate to say, open question, that speaker boehner is worried about staying speaker? >> yes. he's definitely -- i think he's not worried about his election on january 3rd, but...
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will john boehner's path to the speakership be smooth? we'll discuss that everybody on the "morning joe" team when we come back here, we're going to huddle around the water cool we are lewis. do you know lewis? >> oh, god. are you letting him do that? >> there is a parent who teaches a child a harsh lesson about ebay accounts and credit cards. i have no idea what that means. all right. when we come back, the transition very smooth as always between "way too early" and "morning joe" will commence and continue. l matters? maybe you want to incorporate a business. or protect your family with a will or living trust. and you'd like the help of an attorney. at legalzoom a legal plan attorney is available in most states with every personalized document to answer questions. get started at legalzoom.com today. and now you're protected. get started at legalzoom.com today. i've always had to keep my eye on her... but, i didn't always watch out for myself. with so much noise about health care... i tuned it all out. with unitedhealthcare, i get inform
will john boehner's path to the speakership be smooth? we'll discuss that everybody on the "morning joe" team when we come back here, we're going to huddle around the water cool we are lewis. do you know lewis? >> oh, god. are you letting him do that? >> there is a parent who teaches a child a harsh lesson about ebay accounts and credit cards. i have no idea what that means. all right. when we come back, the transition very smooth as always between "way too...